{"channel":"cities","content":"this morning's exercise: sixteen different \"colors\" for comments. (<red> as far as << the *taxonomy* becoming too large to be sorted by color >> ... yes?  That is a problem we will solve later.)\r\n\r\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1icsjsk/yglesias_throw_biden_under_the_bus/ (<red> about a recent piece by Matt Yglesias, entitled << Throw Biden Under The Bus >>.  because, as I said multiple times, his performance in the last six months of the presidency was atrocious.  *and* he led us directly to 4 more years of the Donald.)\r\n\r\n<violet> I know there's Guild Law.  But I'm over-riding on the point of << Yglesias is right; by the end of his term Biden was a *shit* president >>.\r\n<red> Not sure if << this is *history* rather than politics >> or << if you think I'm wrong, I don't care >>.  But, more importantly: we don't get interesting data from *boring* Reddit threads.\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\n# typo fixes.  These are, generally, also other things.  But, pointing out typographical errors is a type of comment.\r\n# dismissal/contempt.  You don't like it.  Great.  You're wrong, but you're allowed to be wrong.\r\n# quotes for emphasis.\r\n# memes.  \"Cool story bro\" type comments.\r\n\r\nThe more substantive comments require engaging with the substance.\r\n\r\nSome of them are bad: << your comment was a hypothetical, so there is no way we can know *for certain* >> (<xantham> so we can assume the opposite (which is also a hypothetical) is definitely true)\r\n\r\nOthers are nonsense (<red> is \"nonsense\" the word?  maybe Frankfurt-ian \"bullshit\"?  maybe just \"deflection\").  \"Trump is bad, so how can you say Biden was bad?\"\r\n\r\nSome people say we need *less* of liberal policies.  Others say we need *more*.  Some comments point out that nobody is quite sure what << liberal >> means here anyway.\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\nIt is all a mess.  And, perhaps, there are too many dishonest participants for there to be any hope of the system converging to useful content.  In particular, once the << hypotheticals don't exist, so your hypothetical is wrong >> arguments get loud enough, there is nothing to be done.\r\n\r\n<xantham> perhaps it is best to quarantine this all in a sound-chamber, and focus on less-useless discussions.","created_at":"2025-01-30T19:00:29.988568","id":166,"llm_annotations":{},"parent_id":163,"processed_content":"<p>this morning's exercise: sixteen different \"colors\" for comments. <span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\">( as far as <span class=\"literal-text\">the <em>taxonomy</em> becoming too large to be sorted by color</span> ... yes?  That is a problem we will solve later.)</span></span>\r</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1icsjsk/yglesias_throw_biden_under_the_bus/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1icsjsk/yglesias_throw_biden_under_the_bus/</a> <span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\">( about a recent piece by Matt Yglesias, entitled <span class=\"literal-text\">Throw Biden Under The Bus</span>.  because, as I said multiple times, his performance in the last six months of the presidency was atrocious.  <em>and</em> he led us directly to 4 more years of the Donald.)</span></span>\r</p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-violet\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udce3</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> I know there's Guild Law.  But I'm over-riding on the point of <span class=\"literal-text\">Yglesias is right; by the end of his term Biden was a <em>shit</em> president</span>.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> Not sure if <span class=\"literal-text\">this is <em>history</em> rather than politics</span> or <span class=\"literal-text\">if you think I'm wrong, I don't care</span>.  But, more importantly: we don't get interesting data from <em>boring</em> Reddit threads.\r</span></span></p><hr class=\"section-break\" /><ul>\n<li class=\"number-list\"> typo fixes.  These are, generally, also other things.  But, pointing out typographical errors is a type of comment.\r</li>\n<li class=\"number-list\"> dismissal/contempt.  You don't like it.  Great.  You're wrong, but you're allowed to be wrong.\r</li>\n<li class=\"number-list\"> quotes for emphasis.\r</li>\n<li class=\"number-list\"> memes.  \"Cool story bro\" type comments.\r</li>\n</ul>\n<p>The more substantive comments require engaging with the substance.\r</p>\n<p>Some of them are bad: <span class=\"literal-text\">your comment was a hypothetical, so there is no way we can know <em>for certain</em></span> <span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span><span class=\"colortext-content\">( so we can assume the opposite (which is also a hypothetical) is definitely true)</span></span>\r</p>\n<p>Others are nonsense <span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\">( is \"nonsense\" the word?  maybe Frankfurt-ian \"bullshit\"?  maybe just \"deflection\")</span></span>.  \"Trump is bad, so how can you say Biden was bad?\"\r</p>\n<p>Some people say we need <em>less</em> of liberal policies.  Others say we need <em>more</em>.  Some comments point out that nobody is quite sure what <span class=\"literal-text\">liberal</span> means here anyway.\r</p><hr class=\"section-break\" /><p>It is all a mess.  And, perhaps, there are too many dishonest participants for there to be any hope of the system converging to useful content.  In particular, once the <span class=\"literal-text\">hypotheticals don't exist, so your hypothetical is wrong</span> arguments get loud enough, there is nothing to be done.\r</p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> perhaps it is best to quarantine this all in a sound-chamber, and focus on less-useless discussions.</span></span></p>","quotes":[],"subject":"helena (5/8)"}
