{"channel":"usconst","content":"It is unclear whether Trump's \"annex Canada\" statements have any meaning other than juvenile haranguing.\r\n\r\nBut, it isn't the worst idea in the world. (<xantham> some versions of it *might* be the worst idea in the world)\r\n\r\nIt would have to come with some more-aggressive *devolution*.  Roughly, everything other than the nuclear umbrella and the US dollar can be devolved to some degree.\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\nThe risk factors (roughly: what if Donald Trump gets elected) remain.\r\n\r\nThe obvious solution is to not have popular elections.  This would be wildly unpopular.  And it has failure cases of its own.\r\n\r\nThe *ideological drift* of a multi-national body is, in some ways, counterbalanced by the risk (or reality) of extremist populists.\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\nThere are two kinds of concerns about a Constitution.\r\n\r\nOne is << in a country where 80% of people are white supremacists, the country will pursue white supremacy!  this means the Constitution has failed! >>.  And, no.  That's not a real risk.  That is how government is supposed to work.  Any attempt to imagine a document will let you impose *your* values indefinitely against the will of the populace will fail.\r\n\r\nThe second is that a well-organized minority will do that.  Or, that the failures of the government will create such a minority. (<mogue> :guild_sign_1:)","created_at":"2025-02-14T18:10:06.683903","id":228,"llm_annotations":{},"parent_id":null,"processed_content":"<p>It is unclear whether Trump's \"annex Canada\" statements have any meaning other than juvenile haranguing.\r</p>\n<p>But, it isn't the worst idea in the world. <span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\">( some versions of it <em>might</em> be the worst idea in the world)</span>\n  </span>\r</p>\n<p>It would have to come with some more-aggressive <em>devolution</em>.  Roughly, everything other than the nuclear umbrella and the US dollar can be devolved to some degree.\r</p> <hr class=\"section-break\" /> <p>The risk factors (roughly: what if Donald Trump gets elected) remain.\r</p>\n<p>The obvious solution is to not have popular elections.  This would be wildly unpopular.  And it has failure cases of its own.\r</p>\n<p>The <em>ideological drift</em> of a multi-national body is, in some ways, counterbalanced by the risk (or reality) of extremist populists.\r</p> <hr class=\"section-break\" /> <p>There are two kinds of concerns about a Constitution.\r</p>\n<p>One is <span class=\"literal-text\">in a country where 80% of people are white supremacists, the country will pursue white supremacy!  this means the Constitution has failed!</span>.  And, no.  That's not a real risk.  That is how government is supposed to work.  Any attempt to imagine a document will let you impose <em>your</em> values indefinitely against the will of the populace will fail.\r</p>\n<p>The second is that a well-organized minority will do that.  Or, that the failures of the government will create such a minority. <span class=\"colorblock color-mogue\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83c\udf0e</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\">( :guild_sign_1:)</span>\n  </span></p>","quotes":[],"subject":"the 51st state"}
